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- From: digital@magicnet.net (Digital Digits)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
- Subject: Re: Is it Adios Amiga again? (AT sold out!)
- Date: 16 Apr 1996 01:06:41 GMT
- Organization: MagicNet, Inc.
- Message-ID: <3973.6679T1188T2534@magicnet.net>
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- >I think that this is great news! To be perfectly honest, Escom was killing
- >the Amiga. When reading the article in the latest Amazing Computing, I was
- >sickend by the fact that Petro Tyschtschenko stated that if the $2700 price
- >tag on the Amiga was lowered that no more Amigas would be sold. What a
- >crock. There are three people I know including myself that refuse to buy a
- >new Amiga because of the high price. If you have seen the quality of the
- >new Amigas you would puke. They are almost the worst quality computer I
- >have ever seen.
-
- >What I am saying is chances are it is not going to get any worse.
-
- >Kenton Groombridge
- >kgroombr@hereford.ampr.org
-
-
- Are you kidding? Escom was the best thing to happen to the Amiga since
- it was acquired by Commodore! Not only did they start production of
- existing machines, they started reestablishing a worldwide dealer
- network, as well as restarting R&D. Most important of all, they gave
- DIRECTION to what had been a floundering platform for the last 5+ years.
-
- EVERYTHING Escom has done was done from a strict business perspective --
- the choice of PPC over DEC & HP; design of the "Walker" towards standard
- hardware; NOT jumping headlong into the US market; the sale of AT...
- As far as the $2,700 price goes...do you have ANY IDEA the COST of all
- those proprietary components? (Floppy drives, chips, DB-23 connectors,
- etc.) Consider that Escom was probably the ONLY CUSTOMER IN THE WORLD
- for most of that.
-
- Understand that Escom had just posted a big quarterly loss. Much of that
- was from their purchase of Commodore & the Amiga. Poorer than expected
- holiday sales were what probably cost Manfred Schmitt his job.
-
- Read Businessweek sometime. When a company CEO is replaced it is because
- the Board wants ACTION NOW. (Look at Apple.) Helmut Jost had to do
- something visible and had to do it immediately or risk following Schmitt.
- Buying Commodore cost Escom about $15 million; they probably put about
- another $15 million into getting everything up and running. Now, along
- comes an opportunity to sell the division responsible for most of the
- capital outlay -- at a nice profit AND they keep the valuable (in Europe)
- Commodore name & trademarks. It's a big win situation for Jost & Escom.
-
- Now, VIScorp not only gets unhindered access to the stuff they need
- (AmigaDOS and chips) they also get a fully-functional R&D team, rights
- to sell systems without having to DO anything (manufacturing, distribution
- and sales networks are ALREADY IN PLACE in Europe).
-
- If it's handled rightly, this could be the best move for the Amiga to
- date.
-
- What I think should be the first move of VIScorp is to kill R&D for new
- Amiga hardware.
-
- [I can hear the cries of outrage already. Hear me out.]
-
- The Walker was the best move I've seen in a long time. Except for the
- AGA chipset, it moved firmly towards PC common components (read CHEAP &
- PLENTIFUL). Amiga HD floppies cost $130 -- a similar PC one is $30. A
- 32-bit SVGA card with 2 Mb of RAM [PCI bus] is under $75. The equivalent
- for and Amiga? Around $500. Same damn chips on the card, too.
-
- By stopping research on hardware and dumping the money & efforts into
- porting AmigaDOS to PPC (CHRP/PREP) they could do wonders. After all,
- AmigaDOS is the only reason I still use an Amiga. For $2,700 I can get
- (and have gotten) a PC with hardware that makes an A4000T look like
- somebody's discarded calculator. [Read Dave Haynie's IRC session.]
- The problem is the 200-pound gorilla called "Windows" on the back of the
- system. BLOATED is the nicest term I can think of. As a result, all the
- PC software has that same BLOATED feel. Can you imagine the POWER of
- a system like today's top-of-the-line PCs with AmigaDOS? Where you don't
- need 8 Mb of RAM to run the OS?
-
- Anyway, this is getting too long. Give VIScorp a chance. AT looks like
- it is being sold "intact" (though I can't find their web page anymore).
- Let's see what they do.
-
- Charles Hill
- chill@magicnet.net
-
-